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post #526 of 556 (permalink) Old 05-11-2019, 08:04 PM
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Underground Build...BTW.

Not that it matters, but I called ARP and informed them of their discrepancies in the WP bolt kits. I did end up using two of the “spare” bolts for something else though.
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Mocked up everything today and found that I don't need the spacer/shim that I previously thought I needed. Mine does not hit liked Patricks did. Getting the damper on was a tough job though and I had purchased an install/puller tool locally. It just didn't want to go on. I think the woodruff key was the issue. I had to hammer it in and had a bit of a problem getting the crankshaft gear on earlier as well. I had to shape it up some which of course took several on and offs with the damper. Don't even think about doing it without the tool, just don't.

Since I didn't need the shim, I went ahead and put the timing cover on, leaving the bolts loose (what ones I have at the moment) and installing the damper to center the oil seal on the damper. I used The Right Stuff on the gasket for the water pump and snugged down the bolts. I then applied a small bead all the way around the oil pan gasket per the instructions.I also put the RTV in the corners where the rubber gaskets meet the pan gasket. I've never liked that design...

There's a few pictures of it buttoned up. Here's hoping it's a good long time before I see the bottom end again!

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Ok, at $81 a gasket the Cometic should be correct out of the box. I reamed this one a bit with a chainsaw file (used it because it's much finer than my rat tail file). But again, it should be dead nuts on for $81 a gasket. The other one was perfect.

Waiting on the shaft rockers (end of the month arrival) for final valve train measurements...

I hope this thing makes at least 250 horses...

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I've learned a ton watching your build thread! thanks for sharing all the little nit picky details. I for one, appreciate it.

I'll be putting together a small block myself this winter me thinks.
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I've learned a ton watching your build thread! thanks for sharing all the little nit picky details. I for one, appreciate it.

I'll be putting together a small block myself this winter me thinks.
Up late tonight, just not ready to sleep. You made my night. I have been trying to document the "small" things and you confirm that I have at least documented some of them. I have two guys I lean on besides what little knowledge I have. @silverblueBP and @patrickstapler are helping me tremendously. If you don't know silverblueBP's story, go to stangfix.com and look up msell66 and read his story...if you can't find it let me know. The guy's incredible!! When you become fiends with him, make sure you have tough skin. He will laugh at you (all in fun), but he is a great help , he tells you how it is and helps in every way possible. He's not here anymore and I'll delete this if he ever comes back... Patricks here (a moderator) and simply has a knack for precision and detail. You'll need it!

Ok, enough of my secrets...

Seriously, I'm asking a plethora of questions that don't get asked here on the thread but I try to post the results of what is learned.

I'm looking forward to seeing them both again at the 45th Mid America - June 12th - June 16th. https://musclecarevents.org/

Again, thanks, and I hope it helps somehow...

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A little sneak peak at what it's shaping up to look like.

I have the regular head gaskets on from the FelPro kit and ready to check and make sure the pistons aren't touching the heads (previously I had to take just a bit off the pistons in one spot that was touching, probably wouldn't have with the gaskets on but I wanted to make sure). The Jesels won't be here for a couple of weeks but I will use the 1.6 roller rockers I have to check everything. I know I will have to check it all again once the shaft rockers get here and the Cometic gaskets go on but I just trying to stay ahead of the game...

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1st picture is of the stud kit (354-2104) for a 289 from ARP with no gaskets on the Weiand Stealth intake. I put the intake gaskets on and checked, still too close (will not tighten down). So I have ordered two sets of 200-8587 (just washers) and will double washer the intake bolts. With the gaskets on, the washer comes up to the threads (remember a gasket on each side so it raises the intake because of the angle change). I also wanted to make sure that the .015" that was taken off the heads was not going to cause and angle problem with the intake. All seems good there.

Side note, Mark doesn't like this approach (double washers), Patrick says it's done all the time in aerospace and military hardware. I learned some time ago that when it comes to decisions (ie in business), it's usually better to have 2 partners. So if one person wants to go off and do something that would hurt the business, usually the other two will keep them in check. I've applied this to making decisions. If I thought it was good and both said no way, I wouldn't do it. But the fact that 2 of us think it is ok, it makes me feel better. I also like the fact these guys are up front and honest about things. Will straight call you a dumb-a s s when they think you are...

Hey, I can handle that!!

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Still can’t get over those F’ing orange heads. Please paint those bastards already. And get rid of that damn copper/cast iron fitting in your intake...jeez.
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Still can’t get over those F’ing orange heads. Please paint those bastards already. And get rid of that damn copper/cast iron fitting in your intake...jeez.
Is that the 110 octane talking?

I will in due time.

Inside joke...

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Must be...burned a little today. After I figured out the starter...dumba$$ me.
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Hope you don't have issues like @silverblueBP did as recalled by this thread https://forums.vintage-mustang.com/t...rpm-omaha.html Now if I could just find that pic of his car with a mushroom cloud behind it .....


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Hope you don't have issues like @silverblueBP did as recalled by this thread https://forums.vintage-mustang.com/t...rpm-omaha.html Now if I could just find that pic of his car with a mushroom cloud behind it .....
Good catch. I have a good 1/4" between the intake and the block as it sits. I don't think the full 1/4" will be taken up when torqued down but I will certainly post pictures when I get to that point.

As Randy Jackson on "Idol" used to say..."Good looking Out!"

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@BlakeTX has informed me in a general discussion photo hosting thread that my pictures are terrible, (he was specifically talking about the 66 GT thread). If any of you are having problems seeing my photos (especially the size of them), please advise.

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My coolest picture yet...

I have calculated dynamic compression ratio to be 9.91:1.

Still waiting on the shaft rockers, next week they should be here.

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