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Pontiac is in my blood.....1st GTO though

My dad had a '79 T/A when i was a kid, and my first "nice" car was a '99 Formula, which i thrashed to death a few times. So I've always loved Ponchos, but this will be my first goat.


(basically copied my thread in the intro section)

I will be acquiring a '66 GTO hardtop in exchange for assembling my father's-in-law '69 GT500 clone.

The car was originally Teal Turquoise Metallic with Dark Turquoise interior, to which i will not be returning. The midnight blue and black interior look too good to change.

The 389 was long-gone when we got the car in 2013 in favor of a 350HO out of a '68ish buzzard(according to the block casting). Since it's not original, I feel no moral obligation to keep a Poncho engine in it. There's a remote chance I may build a 455 with a roller cam and a Holley EFI conversion(like I did with my BBC '74 K20), but my better judgement and all my experience with new and old engines points me in the direction of a big-cube LS/T56 swap with QA1 suspension. As cool as it would be to see a Poncho under the hood, I'm going to be putting a lot of miles on the car, and LS engines are just too friggin good to really entertain any other option for this purpose. However, the suspension will come a lot sooner than the engine swap, since the 350 isn't exactly a turd omelet with the Muncie behind it. I explain my standpoint on LS swaps pretty clearly here on post #238 >>https://www.gtoforum.com/f178/ls-swa...9/index24.html

I'm seriously thinking about sticking the 350 in my Camaro so I can go to car shows and jokingly tell the Olds 403 T/A guys that my Chevy is more Poncho than their Poncho..... not really, but i'll think about it and chuckle out loud.

It is a non-A/C car also, which I will be correcting with a Vintage Air setup. If someone knows of a better option though, I'm all ears.

It was this color when we got it, and he had it resprayed in the same color. The prep work was crap though, and rust is starting to pop up around the trim and on the door bottoms. It's still a good 20-footer though, so I'm going to wait until I can take it all the way down and do proper prep work. I'm still undecided regarding keeping it midnight blue or just going to black. It almost looks black anyway unless the sunlight hits the metal flake.

I want to get a set of 17" Rally wheels for normal driving and a set of staggered 15x10 & 15x8 Cragars to take to shows. I'm well aware I'll have to make room in the back for fatter tires. I may love modern tech, but I'm rarely a fan of modern-style wheels on classic cars/trucks.

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'66 GTO 4-speed
'07 Yukon Denali, headers, tune
'74 K20, 468, SM465, NP205, Holley EFI
'79 Z28, Vortec 350, M20
'90 Suburban 4x4, 4" lift, OD green, future 4BT swap
'99 Formula, 6.0, LS3 heads, etc, etc, etc (sold)

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Love the color. Do a little at a time. I'd put a Len Williams 455 in it and be done with it. Plug and play. '66 and '67 GTO's are the sexiest looking goats ever, IMO. Nothing compares. My first car at age 18 was a platinum silver/black interior 4 speed '66 GTO.
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I'll add that I bought a 4 speed '65 GTO in 1992 with a '64 326 in it. It had headers and a Crane cam. I ran a tripower on that car, and then a Holley 650....it ran surprisingly well. Pontiac 326-350 engines have a lot of low end torque that the SBC doesn't have.
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I'll add that I bought a 4 speed '65 GTO in 1992 with a '64 326 in it. It had headers and a Crane cam. I ran a tripower on that car, and then a Holley 650....it ran surprisingly well. Pontiac 326-350 engines have a lot of low end torque that the SBC doesn't have.
This 350 has a vacuum Holley on it now, but it's crudely adapted to a spreadbore intake. I'm probably going to get a square bore intake and either keep the Holley it has now or install an Edelbrock mechanical 600 I have with a decent cam and headers.

'66 GTO 4-speed
'07 Yukon Denali, headers, tune
'74 K20, 468, SM465, NP205, Holley EFI
'79 Z28, Vortec 350, M20
'90 Suburban 4x4, 4" lift, OD green, future 4BT swap
'99 Formula, 6.0, LS3 heads, etc, etc, etc (sold)
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Hi Rumblebox
My name is Cory attached is some pics of my 66 GTO. Just reaching out cause i noticed you are in Texas as I am. I am currently trying to get my car up and going again. My 389 is currently being rebuilt in San Antonio Hopefully if all goes right I will be there next sat to get it on the Dyno and get it back in the car. I am also going thru some of the same things you are going thru Ideas and such with swapping over to an LS but haven't decided yet. Anyway Just thought i would hit you up. I think i am the only 66 GTO in Uvlade TX so to find GTO brothers is hard. There are two 67's that sit in collections around here but not a driver like i intend for mine to be. My email is [email protected] i am Retired Vet that now does custom woodworking.

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Hi Rumblebox
My name is Cory attached is some pics of my 66 GTO. Just reaching out cause i noticed you are in Texas as I am. I am currently trying to get my car up and going again. My 389 is currently being rebuilt in San Antonio Hopefully if all goes right I will be there next sat to get it on the Dyno and get it back in the car. I am also going thru some of the same things you are going thru Ideas and such with swapping over to an LS but haven't decided yet. Anyway Just thought i would hit you up. I think i am the only 66 GTO in Uvlade TX so to find GTO brothers is hard. There are two 67's that sit in collections around here but not a driver like i intend for mine to be. My email is [email protected] i am Retired Vet that now does custom woodworking.

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My bro lives in San Antonio, and i have a cousin in Bandera. As soon as i get my suspension upgraded, i want to take a trip to the hill country and test it out.

My LS swap will be later down the line, since it runs ok for now. My main focus for the time being will be suspension/chassis and a T56 swap.

I did 6 years in the Navy as a Corpsman. 3 of those years were with 3rd Batallion 7th Marines, Lima Co. I deployed to Afghanistan in 2010. Fun times. lol

I also build custom guitars and speaker cabs. I definitely foresee us hanging out.

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'07 Yukon Denali, headers, tune
'74 K20, 468, SM465, NP205, Holley EFI
'79 Z28, Vortec 350, M20
'90 Suburban 4x4, 4" lift, OD green, future 4BT swap
'99 Formula, 6.0, LS3 heads, etc, etc, etc (sold)
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Hi Rumblebox
My name is Cory attached is some pics of my 66 GTO. Just reaching out cause i noticed you are in Texas as I am. I am currently trying to get my car up and going again. My 389 is currently being rebuilt in San Antonio Hopefully if all goes right I will be there next sat to get it on the Dyno and get it back in the car. I am also going thru some of the same things you are going thru Ideas and such with swapping over to an LS but haven't decided yet. Anyway Just thought i would hit you up. I think i am the only 66 GTO in Uvlade TX so to find GTO brothers is hard. There are two 67's that sit in collections around here but not a driver like i intend for mine to be. My email is [email protected] i am Retired Vet that now does custom woodworking.

Cory Robertson
That's a good looking car in red with the big Cragars.

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'07 Yukon Denali, headers, tune
'74 K20, 468, SM465, NP205, Holley EFI
'79 Z28, Vortec 350, M20
'90 Suburban 4x4, 4" lift, OD green, future 4BT swap
'99 Formula, 6.0, LS3 heads, etc, etc, etc (sold)
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My first 6 years was in the Corp at Camp Lejune 3rd Bat 8th Marines then i got out for two years and went to the Army with 18th airborne Corp Long Range Surveillance. Taught Airborne and Pathfinder at benning and then back to Home to Ft Bragg.

I am from Uvalde so came back home after to be around my brother and sister here.

I am doing the same thing going with QA1 on mine down the road I run Craiger 17x8 on the front and 17x10 on the back fit no problem but i am running a lower profile tire. I put a right stuff front disk brake kit on the car. I found an engine in North of SA a 461 Pontiac with a holly tri-power set up but $10,000.00 maybe later my wife would kill me if i do it now.

I grew up Tractor pulling my family runs the Oso Negro pulling tractor 3 blown 600 CI chevys making 6000 HP so when Butler told me $16,000 and 6 months to build a engine i told them that i could build a chevy platform making way more HP for 16,000 but its not a Pontiac.So Jerry Jankie in SA does a lot of stuff for the pulling tractor so he has my 389.
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