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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-11-2012, 12:04 AM Thread Starter
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Help! Car Will NOT Start!!!

Hello All, I am new to the forum. I have a '65 Super Sport 396 Convertible that I've been working on for the past couple years. I last time I ran the car was in August of 2011 and so it has sit covered in my garage since then. Last night I had the battery charged at Oreilly and this morning I decided to start it for the first time in 6 months.

The first attempt sounded pretty good. It turned completely over but stalled out quickly. After that it would only make clicking sounds from the starter silenoid each time I tried to start it. I then checked all my connections from the battery to the starter to make sure nothing was loose. I also checked the battery to make sure it was still holding its charge and it checked out okay. After double checking everything again I concluded that the starter must not be engaging the flywheel. So I went back to Oreilly to replace the starter and silenoid (it was still under warranty).

Much to my surprise after I replaced the starter, the car still would not start and it continued making the same clicking sounds. I ran a remote start so that I could try and hear exactly what was going on under the hood and it sounded like the starter was running but not engaging the flywheel. I have heard guys talk about "high torque" starters but don't know much about them. Or if anyone thinks I'm heading down the wrong road, please advise. I am hoping to get the car running ASAP. I am trying to take it to have a new conv. top put on this weekend.

FYI, I'm running an electronic distributor, no points or coil. Everything else is completely factory.

Thanks in advance!

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post #2 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-15-2012, 10:28 PM
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im not an expert by any means but did you buy a rebuilt starter?...i had the same problem a few years back..had to go back to oreilly 4 times and get new starters cause all they did was "click"...
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post #3 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-17-2012, 10:13 AM
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If your starter is clicking that means the starter is not engaging at all (not spinning). If it was not engaging the flywheel but still spinning you would hear the spinning of the starter gear.

Before you try anything else, the next time you try to start it hook up booster cables from your daily driver to the car and try that. It could be just low enough voltage on the battery (and what can you lose). If not, check your starter connection again or maybe it's the starter itself still.
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post #4 of 4 (permalink) Old 02-17-2012, 06:01 PM
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There are two different starters for a Chevy V-8 (not counting the difference between high torque vs standard; or mini vs full size). These are based upon the size of the flywheel. If you have a base horsepower small block car then you have a 10-1/2 inch clutch disc and it is called out by the number of teeth on the starter ring which is 153. If you have a high horsepower small block or any big block then you have an 11 inch clutch disc and a 168 tooth flywheel. If you bolted on a 275 horse 327 starter to a big block the solenoid would run into the flywheel or flex-plate without engaging it making a serious racket. If you put on a smaller sized flexplate or fly wheel and used a bigger 168 tooth starter motor it would run out and miss the flywheel entirely, spinning in mid air (or sounding like it is not engaging).

The starters are ease to tell apart. The smaller 153 has the bolt holes across from each other , the 168 has one bolt moved further forward on the block so that the bolts make a diagonal. Here is a picture of the two starters side by side.

The black one is the 153, and the orange one is the 168 tooth.
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