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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-02-2009, 03:52 PM Thread Starter
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67 Impala SS fastback - need advice

If you guys are tired of me already, I understand

So I went back to searching for Impala and found this one:

67 Impala SS fastback. It has 92 LT1 motor with Holley carb, no computer stuff, TH350 transmission (both engine and transmission have 40K but I guess that can't be proven). Car has manual drum brakes, power steering, originally A/C car but after engine swap, it hasn't been put back. Heat works, weathersealing is fine, good tires, new windshield. According to the seller, frame, rocker panels are solid. There is some rust around wheel wells that can be patched. Most likely the paint is original because there are no oversprays and door jams have same color.

Interior needs headliner and back deck. It is missing ash tray in the dashboard, no radio and has ratchet shifter. Of course it needs very detailed cleaning.

Link to the ad is here: http://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/1055936386.html

Asking price is $4500.

Now, the other story. I saw this car recently for sale for I think $3600 or $3800 but was too late and somebody bought it. Person who bought it traded it in after a week for Plymouth that the current owner had. He's now selling the car due to health problems. All three owners used this car as daily driver and it is currently registered and drivable. Owner can get the car delivered to me which is 2.5h one way drive.

Here are some pictures I got:
http://www.musmedia.com/forsale/impala1.jpg
http://www.musmedia.com/forsale/impala2.jpg
http://www.musmedia.com/forsale/impala3.jpg
http://www.musmedia.com/forsale/impala4.jpg
http://www.musmedia.com/forsale/impala5.jpg
http://www.musmedia.com/forsale/impala6.jpg

So what do you guys think about this one? What about the parts for 67 fastback? Is there a way to tell if that's real SS? Not that I really care but would be nice to check.

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On 67's you can tell if they are SS's from the VIN. Get the VIN and cowl tag numbers and you can tell right away if it was a SS or not. You should se 16887 on the VIN and trim tag if it is an SS hardtop. The trim looks like it is from an SS but that can be changed easily.
Now for the rest.

It looks like whoever painted it did not own any masking tape! All the upper chrome is painted over so I would be really suspect of the paint job and what is under it. Not that you cant take it off and polish it but thats time consuming or expensive. Next the door panels look really bad. It looks like a 2 yr old made them, again they can be replaced but you need to look at that interior before you buy so you know what you are in for. Lastly I would check the frame and floors. The frames are susceptable to rust at the kickup and the front. Hit it with a hammer an make sure you hear a metal sound not a thud. Check the floor pans and trunk, the toe boards will rust out and they are easy to check, push down on the toe board with a screwdriver or awl if he does not want to pull up the carpet to shouw you. Also check under the back seat since the back windows leak and rust out the floor.
Hope I didn't scare you off because I really like the body style but given the pictures it does not look like it's had an easy life so I would really look at this thing hard.

Good luck
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looks like a pretty solid car. I would be more comfortable at $2500.00. All depends on how much you want to invest. Anything with rust means extra $$$. I have tackled some rusty chevelles and it is no picnic. You need to decide what you want the car to be and how much it will take to get it there..then double that.
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Here are a few more comments and things to be aware of. Take a look at the rust on the bumper, and around the moldings (the painted ones, ugh!), the interior dash and the glovebox. Alll these are signs that it has been sitting out in the elements for a long time. Granted it it 40 years old but look at the trim around the back window. The right side piece is missing, this is usually because the clips and/or studs are rusted away and the window channel is probably rusted also. This is not original paint by any stretch since the original side moldings are missing and the holes look to be filled and they painted over the moldings, also the grill has been painted black. Look at it in person before you make any decisions on this one.
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$4500. If I was going to spend that kind of money on a Impala that needed everything that one does I would be looking down south or out west for a good rust free body. That car is overpriced.
Tell us exactly what you want and maybe we can help find it.

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I have to admit my blatant bias for a 67 Fastback Impala, but I kinda like that car, just probably not at 4500.

I look at that 67 and I see a car that's been a driver for a long time and someone did the best they could to keep things lookin' ok for their daily driver. That being said, I don't mind the missing headliner, rear tray or not perfect interior panels & new windshield.

Yeah, ok, my Ebay Impala is only one quicky paint job away from being basically the same car. Maybe that adds to the bias. lol.

If it doesn't smoke, runs well, and the rubber bushings look ok,....no major rust issues, I'd probably be thinking more like $3400-$4200 tops but, I'm also 1200 miles away.
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Thanks guys for all the replies. I also got a little worried when I saw the picture of the rusted interior and the painted grille. I am also not crazy about the shifter. That takes away from this classic car. Looks like I am going to pass on this one also. I guess I am just not good for picking cars :-(

What I would like is something that's drivable. I am OK with either straight six or V8 but it has to be automatic. Daily driver that shows age is what I would describe the car I am looking for. I do not care for some rips in seats or few dings here and there. If there are no major issues like panels needing replacement, I can live with some rust. I can't do any bodywork but I should be able to do basic stuff with the engine (except swap or total rebuild) and I have friend that used to work upholstering furniture, so he should be able to help me redo the interior. My budget is $5K which I can stretch to $6K for the right car. So if you guys know any cars down south that fit this description, let me know. If I can buy it and ship it within my budget, I would consider it.

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Yo drabina, check this out. Shows what $4500 can get ya. I think it's neat, even if the color is polarizing.

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53332

You might have to create a login to see the pictures - if so, go ahead and do it.
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Yo drabina, check this out. Shows what $4500 can get ya. I think it's neat, even if the color is polarizing.

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=53332

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That is really cool car. I do like the paint and interior. There is similar car (though different year) here in NYC too (http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/ctd/1054595691.html) but I have not made my mind up yet if I want the wagon.
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Am I the only one that thinks that is REALLY cheap? Wagons are awesome!
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I love wagons. I sent him the listing for it.

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I did send an e-mail to the dealer asking some question. Not sure if they know much about the car since they are used car dealer but who knows? At this price if the body is solid and with 91K on the odometer, I doubt I will find better deal. But like I said before, I am not yet sold on wagons :-)
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Got a reply from the dealer about the wagon. It is 307 with 4 speed transmission. According to them body is in good shape with recent paint job. Interior would need replacing as it is in poor shape.

I am going to pass because I am looking for automatic. It is cool car though and with 307 should be easier on gas for those who are into cruising and not racing.
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A factory 4 speed wagon might be a rare item. I wish I wasn't broke!
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4 speed wagon . Yeehaw. Put a SS interior in it. Just dreamin.

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$4500. If I was going to spend that kind of money on a Impala that needed everything that one does I would be looking down south or out west for a good rust free body. That car is overpriced.
Tell us exactly what you want and maybe we can help find it.
I would second this, you will be way ahead with a rust free rolling tub or whole car from the southwest.
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Unfortunately, it costs over 1000 to get one from SW to the North East. Probably still looking at around 800 - 1000 just from the South East to the North East.

that's a serious damper in this price range.

For us guys not in the local southwest, or southern areas, the only eyes we have into whats available is high-profile places like Ebay, Auto-Trader, etc. I think the prices there are a small step above what you'd find from local newpapers, shoppers or city sites would have. Oh yeah, I'm jealous.
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If I would be able to find a right car for lets say $5K I could get it shipped here for another grand. But I would have to do the transaction thru a lawyer or some third party service as currently I can't take a trip down there.

BA. is right, here in North East, we get a lot more rust and higher prices as well. Plus with such a big population here where I live close to NYC some good deals do not last even half a day. It looks like for two deals I was interested in there was always somebody before me. It is like there are people that do not work but still have money to spend on cars :-)
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very nice original 66 4 door Caprice.
http://toledo.craigslist.org/cto/1036322102.html

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