A friend is looking at a 63 Impala, not SS, hardtop that the owner says was a 409 car.
The engine is long gone and owner says it was a 3 speed car.
How can we tell if it truly was a 409 car ?
Would a bench seat, non SS Impala, 3 speed be of any collector interest ?
I'm not sure of the best place to find the answer to the '409' part - but i am QUITE sure you'll get an answer on here shortly.
As for it's collector interest: Yes! ANY '63 Chevy is going to have collector interest.. and is a worthy cause if you don't pay an arm and a leg for it. Reasearch it's worth in it's current condition - and make a wise buy. IF you're asking however, 'is it worth putting GOBS of money into, and then making a profit somewhere down the road' .. well, then I'd suggest maybe not. Many (if not most of us) have WAY more into our 4-wheeled love affairs than we'll ever get back: but that's not the nature of the hobby.
I love my 4-door plain jane Impala just for being a cool survivor. That Coupe you're lookin' at sounds nice, too. Keep us informed! ~Mitch.
The seller will be doubling the asking price and will have documentation to prove his claim. The documentation have all of the paperwork associated with the sale of the car from the time it was first sold by the factory (bill of sale window sticker warranty card) a list of owners sworn and bonded by Lloyds of London attesting you will not be scammed and a recommendation from your church pastor saying it is ok to trust him.
Other than that you can clone your own as there is nothing on the planet except documentation to prove otherwise. Besides the money you save in not buying the documented version allows you to buy all new Edelbrock heads, water pump made of aluminum, and either an aluminum three two barrel or a two four intake and cast aluminum valve covers if you have to have the old school ribbed look. A modern roller hydraulic cam and a 454 BBC crank turned down to the bearing size of the 409 will have you running close to 500 cubes, and make a truck load of extra power in the process. You can use a recycled old truck block or a buy a World’s Product brand new HD block casting that is stronger by far than the original cast iron block.
All the VIN will tell you is if it was a V-8 or not; not what size or type it it used to be.
Dave is right, but I do believe the front coil spring numbers ended in 408, they are a 7 didgit #, if in fact they are still there, and I believe a certain type of resistor on the fire wall and a larger radiator, best way is try and find an orig. at a show..good luck
You can also tell by the Fuel Lines and simply, the Emblems on the side of the car, if original. My '63 SS parts car has 4 holes on the side of the fender, which made me think it might have been, but it doesn't seem like it was. Altho I have another '63 409 4-Speed parts car in rough shape (engine and trans long gone) but other than some conversation, it's really no big deal.