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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 05-05-2014, 12:31 PM Thread Starter
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Cutting and Buffing the 65 SS

My wife bought me a Porter Cable 7424XP buffer kit from autogeek for my birthday.

The paint on my Impala was pretty rough so this weekend I had some free time to work on the paint.
This is what I had to start with:


I just had a cheapo 10" harbor freight orbital, but you really cant do much with those, so after the pad came apart on it, I started telling my wife about the DA

Anyways, here is how the car looked after some Meguiars ultimate compound and the DA with yellow CCS pads






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68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4
97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil
65 Impala SS 327 Camelhump Heads, CompCams RR, 650 carb, M-20 M4, 12 bolt 3.73 gears
91 Cherokee 2 door. 4X4, NP 231 TC, AX15 M5
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Looks like a new paint job. Now the neighbors will think your painting cars there.
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Looks like a new paint job. Now the neighbors will think your painting cars there.
haha no kidding, Im pretty happy with the results so far, I still need to come back with the light cutting pads and the polish, so Im hoping it will look even better.

Im trying to manage my expectations, it is a really poor paint job the previous owner had done, so you can see some imperfections in places that even the heavy cutting pads didnt take care of... oh well

www.fquick.com/Captainofiron

68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4
97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil
65 Impala SS 327 Camelhump Heads, CompCams RR, 650 carb, M-20 M4, 12 bolt 3.73 gears
91 Cherokee 2 door. 4X4, NP 231 TC, AX15 M5
13 Veloster Turbo. Turbo I-4 M6
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It does look very good.

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It does look very good.

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thanks

cant wait to take her for a cruise.

Wanted to take my wife to the drive in, but it got super windy last night

www.fquick.com/Captainofiron

68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4
97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil
65 Impala SS 327 Camelhump Heads, CompCams RR, 650 carb, M-20 M4, 12 bolt 3.73 gears
91 Cherokee 2 door. 4X4, NP 231 TC, AX15 M5
13 Veloster Turbo. Turbo I-4 M6
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I love my PC, and Meg's UC is awesome. I use orange pads with UC, can't remember if they are harsher than the yellows. Hit it with polish next, then top with wax to protect it!

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You do nice work. It looks good
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Damn that looks great so far!
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I love my PC, and Meg's UC is awesome. I use orange pads with UC, can't remember if they are harsher than the yellows. Hit it with polish next, then top with wax to protect it!
Yea I cant believe how long I struggled with a orbital and terry cloth towels, haha
the yellows were the heaviest cut.

What Im thinking is to go over it again with the white pads and the UC, then come back with the Ultimate Polish and the grey pads, then wax it with the red pads

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You do nice work. It looks good
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Damn that looks great so far!
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www.fquick.com/Captainofiron

68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4
97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil
65 Impala SS 327 Camelhump Heads, CompCams RR, 650 carb, M-20 M4, 12 bolt 3.73 gears
91 Cherokee 2 door. 4X4, NP 231 TC, AX15 M5
13 Veloster Turbo. Turbo I-4 M6
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Finished up this week, man what a difference.
I drove the Impala to work today. Ran great, I have a little vibration at around 60-65, Im thinking its either one of the rear tires or a u-joint

Here are some pictures I took this morning while leaving for work








www.fquick.com/Captainofiron

68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4
97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil
65 Impala SS 327 Camelhump Heads, CompCams RR, 650 carb, M-20 M4, 12 bolt 3.73 gears
91 Cherokee 2 door. 4X4, NP 231 TC, AX15 M5
13 Veloster Turbo. Turbo I-4 M6
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Looks like a new car!

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Looks like a new car!

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thanks man. crazy how some hard work with the right tools will work so well, haha who would have thought

www.fquick.com/Captainofiron

68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4
97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil
65 Impala SS 327 Camelhump Heads, CompCams RR, 650 carb, M-20 M4, 12 bolt 3.73 gears
91 Cherokee 2 door. 4X4, NP 231 TC, AX15 M5
13 Veloster Turbo. Turbo I-4 M6
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post #13 of 22 (permalink) Old 05-17-2014, 07:50 AM
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The PC has really changed the detail scene. I have been using one for years.

The pad colors don't have an industry standard per say, but an orange pad is usually a cutting pad. Red or white is polishing, and blue is usually fine for wax. If you don't use the PC for applying wax, do it. It goes so much more quickly.
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You really did a nice job; the car looks great.

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Thanks guys

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68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4
97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil
65 Impala SS 327 Camelhump Heads, CompCams RR, 650 carb, M-20 M4, 12 bolt 3.73 gears
91 Cherokee 2 door. 4X4, NP 231 TC, AX15 M5
13 Veloster Turbo. Turbo I-4 M6
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Just curious... is this the Porter Cable buffer you got? http://www.amazon.com/PORTER-CABLE-7424XP-6-Inch-Variable-Speed-Polisher/dp/B002654I46/ref=lh_ni_t?t=slicinc-20&tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=9bf15f0a06f743a2972d79bf5b9fe097&ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER Looking to get one myself, and impressed by the results
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Just curious... is this the Porter Cable buffer you got? Porter Cable Polisher. Looking to get one myself, and impressed by the results
Yep, thats it.

BUT I dont use the 6.5 inch pad it comes with. I bought a 5 inch hook and loop (velcro) backing plate

from everything I have read, the 6.5 inch pad is a little too big for the 7424 to do any paint correction. What I would do is buy a 5 inch and some thin pads like the Lakewood CCS pads

they work amazing

this is the kit that I bought
http://www.autogeek.net/hk7424.html

backing plate:
http://www.autogeek.net/lc43125.html

Here is a good chart showing what color pad does what
http://www.auto-geek.net/charts/buff...d-chart-lc.htm

and this pad combo is a really good deal
http://www.autogeek.net/lake-country-ccs-pack1.html

for the Impala I used the yellow first with the compound, then the white with compound, then the gray with polish, and finally the red with wax and for buffing

Before I bought my kit I went and priced out each individual component (I had some coupons on other sites), and it still came out cheaper with that all in one kit on Autogeek

Here is a good video about using the Porter Cable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et6Egpw-f-s

www.fquick.com/Captainofiron

68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4
97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil
65 Impala SS 327 Camelhump Heads, CompCams RR, 650 carb, M-20 M4, 12 bolt 3.73 gears
91 Cherokee 2 door. 4X4, NP 231 TC, AX15 M5
13 Veloster Turbo. Turbo I-4 M6
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Excellent info, and thanks! I see a few purchases coming in the near future
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Good advice, I also use 5" pads.

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Excellent info, and thanks! I see a few purchases coming in the near future
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Good advice, I also use 5" pads.
great, glad I could help.

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68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4
97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil
65 Impala SS 327 Camelhump Heads, CompCams RR, 650 carb, M-20 M4, 12 bolt 3.73 gears
91 Cherokee 2 door. 4X4, NP 231 TC, AX15 M5
13 Veloster Turbo. Turbo I-4 M6
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I think my work is blocking Photobucket or something, I'm just now able to see the pictures finally.

Looks great!

HOW A NOVICE REBUILDS A 66 IMPALA CONVERTIBLE:
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Thanks, yea our IT is odd with what it blocks, and it changes day to day.

Also as I was talking about earlier, just got an email from Autogeek with some coupon codes

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Memorial Day Sale!
We're giving you not one, but TWO ways to save for the next 3 days! Take 15% off with coupon code MLD15. If your order exceeds $150, use coupon code MLD20 to take 20% off! What's more, order over $150 will ship for FREE!
Sale ends midnight EST on Monday, May 26th.

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68 Firebird 400, YC 400, Hbeam rods, ported 670 heads (2.11i, 1.77e valves), 1.65 RRs, Torker 2 intake, Nodular Crank, Eaton Limited Slip, Richmond 3.55 gears, M-20 M4
97 Trans Am WS6, LT1, M6, FLP LTs, Cutouts, Flowmaster catback, Jet Airfoil, K&N air filter, MSD Opti and Coil
65 Impala SS 327 Camelhump Heads, CompCams RR, 650 carb, M-20 M4, 12 bolt 3.73 gears
91 Cherokee 2 door. 4X4, NP 231 TC, AX15 M5
13 Veloster Turbo. Turbo I-4 M6
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