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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-12-2017, 05:58 PM Thread Starter
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Dash/windshield panel?

Hello again. We went to get a new windshield installed yesterday and the installer stopped and would not put the new glass on. It turns out there is some rot.

Is this a panel that is available? Will I need to find a donor and cut it out to use on our car? Can a body man fix this?

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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old 10-12-2017, 06:19 PM
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Do you know how to weld? If you do do you own a welder? For light metal like this a cheap Chinese 110 Volt welder can weld in a patch panel.

To make the patch panel you will need some flat mild steel 16 gauge sheet metal, a hand held tin snip and either a small brake or a big vice to bend the metal. You will also need a grinder to grind the welds down so that the dash is flat when you are done.

I recommend you watch old episodes of PowerBlockTV with Lou Santiago who was the host of Muscle Car on Spike before they got greedy and the owners of the shows walked away from Spike and started their own studio with new names for the same old shows. You actually want to buy the episode CD that has all of the shows on it though you can find a lot of them on the internet still.

https://www.powernationtv.com/episod...hing-the-frame

http://www.powernationtv.com/episode...roker-build-up

https://www.powernationtv.com/episod...mans-goes-gold

This Le Mans and the 1961 Impala that was rebuilt with a 409 (project Red Sled) are excellent example of body work where you don't buy pressed sheet metal from China, you instead patch what Detroit made to cut out rust with patch panels you fabricate yourself. Unlike one week builds seen on some shows these take years to restore with a lot of information that doesn't make the show requiring you to watch all of their project restorations to see all the techniques.

https://www.powernationtv.com/episod...-sled-bodywork

https://www.powernationtv.com/episod...s-the-lead-out

https://www.powernationtv.com/episod...nt-and-emblems

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It's not available reproduced anyway. You would need to fix it as Dave has mentioned or cut one out of a parts car. I don't have any good ones here. If you want to try to buy one, try Desert Valley Auto in AZ.

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Thanks for the replies. I figure it will be a patch weld job. And no I don’t weld. I might learn on this though. Ugh.

Took the windshield goo off of the rest of the channel. Not good.








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What year is the car? There is a lower cowl panel available:
1965-67 Impala lower cowl panel
I had the same issue you have. I had my body shop cut out the channel, fab-up a new piece, weld it in and finish and paint it. It looks factory.
While you are doing all of that work and the windshield is out of the way, it is HIGHLY recommended you have the dash painted.
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What year is the car? There is a lower cowl panel available:
1965-67 Impala lower cowl panel
Interesting.

They are always reproducing new stuff.

Hard to keep up with it, lol.

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What year is the car? There is a lower cowl panel available:
1965-67 Impala lower cowl panel
I had the same issue you have. I had my body shop cut out the channel, fab-up a new piece, weld it in and finish and paint it. It looks factory.
While you are doing all of that work and the windshield is out of the way, it is HIGHLY recommended you have the dash painted.


Thanks. Close but not the rotted part I need. Well, this part is a little rough too, but hoping to just replace the dash part right now and fix the edge of the cowl.

But I will dig into Year One. I did not know they were doing Impala parts.
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Year one, Classic Chevy, and all of the rest of the places that sell reproduction parts don't make anything. It is up to five factories in China that actually make the sheet metal parts based upon demand for the parts from Canada, America, and South America. The more people ask for these parts, the greater the chance that they will be made to fill demand.

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Actually, CARS, Inc. does actually carry sheet metal pieces produced in the USA.

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Well got an estimate from the local Maaco. This place actually has gotten good reviews from people I know for their work on older iron.

Not real happy about the price though. But since I can’t weld I am a little bit screwed.

The estimate says they have to remove the fenders to get to that part of the dash. They plan on removing the dash. I guess that makes sense to do the work with it out of the car. Ugh. I really did not want to drop $2k plus on the car at this point.
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Look around and find another body shop that works on older cars and get another estimate.

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It came back from the shop today. Looks pretty good to me. I will see how well the windshield fits in it when they come to install it after Christmas.





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Give it the refrigerator magnet test before you seal it up. Your body shop might have a great sculptor on their payroll, not necessarily a great body man. Better safe than sorry.

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Give it the refrigerator magnet test before you seal it up. Your body shop might have a great sculptor on their payroll, not necessarily a great body man. Better safe than sorry.

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Good point. Will do that.
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New windshield installed. Hope to go for an inspection soon.

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Wow... I have the EXACT same issue on my 65. I'm curious about how much I'm looking at spending to get a body shop to do the same. That being said, reputable body shops seem few and far between where I live which is a bummer.

I really do wish i knew how to weld.

I'm super pumped for you to see that this can be done and it won't be such a science project to get done.

Thanks!

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Wow... I have the EXACT same issue on my 65. I'm curious about how much I'm looking at spending to get a body shop to do the same. That being said, reputable body shops seem few and far between where I live which is a bummer.



I really do wish i knew how to weld.



I'm super pumped for you to see that this can be done and it won't be such a science project to get done.



Thanks!



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I hope yours is not as bad as ours.

Since the part is not readily available and I don’t have any boneyards around me with a donor, I went with the body shop. When drilling the holes for the trim clips, I noticed that a bit of mud was used. Confirming the magnet test. But I was not shocked nor too upset. It works and it looks good. I am on to fix other things now. Hopefully it warms up a bit soon.
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