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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-01-2011, 07:09 AM Thread Starter
 
 
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greetings from Europe

Hi all, I'm from Poland and just started working on my 64 Impala SS 2d hardtop, it needs complete renovation. I've bought it in 2004, it had no windscreen (last year I had new one shipped from US), it had 230 inline 6 cylinder motor with 3 speed manual transmission, I'm not sure if it's oryginal becouse somebody took off VIN plate, it was mostly disassambled and samebody started "bodywork" but all that need to be done again in right way. I'm planning to install air ride kit and probably 350 TPI engine.
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-01-2011, 09:05 AM
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I have never heard of or seen a 64SS with a 6 cylinder engine. Welcome aboard
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post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-01-2011, 01:15 PM Thread Starter
 
 
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there was one on ebay in february:

"This is a 1 family car that has been stored most of its life and has been unmolested and well preserved. It is a true Super Sport, and one of few SS’s built with a 230 straight 6. The car was owned by a woman and ordered that way when new. The 2nd and 3rd digits of the VIN are used to decode the model of the car. For this car they are 13, which decodes as impala SS L6. The original owners manual is still in the glove box."
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'64 Impala SS 2d hardtop
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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-01-2011, 04:02 PM
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In 1964 a SS was a trim option just like an Impala, was different from a Caprice which differed from a Biscayne, or a Bel Air. All where trim levels and had no affect what so ever on what occurred under the hood. So you could order a 153 cubic inch fire breathing four cylinder for your 1964 SS if you wanted to.

The only full size cars were having an SS makes any difference is on the "427 SS'' Impala or Biscayne or Bel Air as that wasn't a trim offering but a package from the factory that bought you a 427 big block motor, heavy duty suspension, heavy duty cooling, a TH400 or a Muncie four speed manual, a special blistered hood, special 427 badges, and the rest of the SS trim package that was offered that year : and the 1994-'96 SS Impala which once again was a performance package and not a trim package. I believe that you could only get the 409 horsepower 409 unless you also ordered the SS package with it, but that the SS package didn't include anything else being heavy duty with it, so you could get it with a three speed or a PowerGlide, with all standard suspension.

Chevelle, Camaro and the 1968-'72 Nova's all had a package that included heavy duty everything when you ordered a SS with a high horsepower motor that was only available with the SS package. On these "Muscle Cars" as they came to be known buying an SS package meant you where buying a factory prepped hot rod that you got in drove to the track (because no one would race on the street back then). The SS package at that time in automotive history on those cars meant performance not trim, marketing guys have been trading on that ever since on pick-up and full size luxury yachts by labeling them SS with a package of decals.

If you want a high performance full size car buy an old police car (the 9C1 RPO option code on the order form) and stick a high horsepower motor under the hood to compliment the super duty suspension, and heavy duty cooling, and heavy duty electrical wiring, and the posi rear end containing taller than normal gears in the differential. You could always add a SS package by upgrading the trim after the fact or do like I do and drive it as a sleeper that no one suspects can do anything as it is an atypical hot rod, that isn't painted red, or has a loud exhaust that screams "hey look at me"

There is a difference between form and function. I prefer functionality over anything else and let the looks fall where they may. My race cars do not look like race cars they perform like race cars. Often folks get it backwards and strive to look like a race car and think by adding a lot of chrome it will make it perform like one.

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post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-01-2011, 07:17 PM
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Welcome Dyra


these folks here are a great source of information and always willing to help
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post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-02-2011, 08:53 AM
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Hi dyra. Welcome to the site. I am too from Poland (though live in the US now). A lots of great folks here.
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post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-02-2011, 11:39 AM
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Just to expand on Daves discussion a bit ( I agree that the SS could have any engine BTW)

"In 1964 a SS was a trim option just like an Impala"

What Dave meant is correct but he probably should have written that in 1964 the SS was a trim "level" rather than a trim "option"

This may seem like a nit but in Impala SS history it becomes important.

"Option" generally refers to RPO or Regular Production Option. And it is true that the SS was a RPO in '61 thru '63 and '68 and up. But in 1964 thru 1967 inclusive the SS was a separate designated product model (read trim level if you desire). This model could be ordered with any of the available engine choices.
This is why it is very easy to verify and determine a 1964-1967 impala SS by the VIN alone. The others years you need to determine the "options" to verify this fact.

This is generally well known and we take it for granted but it is good to remind us of this fact every onece in a while.

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post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-02-2011, 03:44 PM
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Welcome to the site!

It looks like you Sir, are in for an in-depth restoration!

HOW A NOVICE REBUILDS A 66 IMPALA CONVERTIBLE:
http://www.impalas.net/forums/blog.php?u=1432
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post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-02-2011, 04:37 PM Thread Starter
 
 
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Thank you guys for that brief history about SS in 64 Impalas.

Yes it's gonna be depth restoration, specialy I need to import every part form US what takes time, good I have 64 bel air 4 door as a donor car for sheet metal parts, you can't find any impalas on yunk jards around here.

Best reagrds.

'64 Impala SS 2d hardtop
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post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 05-03-2011, 08:55 AM
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We dont find 64 s in junk yards around here too much either
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