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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-31-2013, 04:00 PM Thread Starter
 
 
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after not posting for years and working on my 63 4 dr ht, i have decided to get back on the site as i'm getting a new 63. The new car is a 63 impala wagon and i will be swapping a bunch of the parts over from the 4 dr ht that i can including the frame. after i pick up the car i will start posting pics of the progress. I'm wanting to build an original patina car, similar to skim's 62 wagon.

I also work at ron francis wiring so if anyone needs any help or got questions just ask

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-31-2013, 04:48 PM
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Welcome back Chris!

Not every one can appreciate a more door, but most love a long roof (even though there is so much more to love with it's fifth door in the back). I am glad you have a project you can enjoy working on.

I'll bet you're swapping the frames because of the work you have previously completed on your first project. Just be certain to note any differences in the two frames before you drop the body on it and replicate those differences if any before it is covered up and hard to get at. I would confirm that there are the same number of holes in the frame in the exact same locations; and to also look for any additional gussets to reinforce parts of the frame (such as brackets to strengthen the shock mounts), or additional cross-members; since the gas tanks mount in different locations.

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post #3 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-31-2013, 09:31 PM Thread Starter
 
 
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hey dave, yeah the wagon just had more appeal to me and it would have costed me more money to strip the paint off the 4 door than what this wagon cost me. The 4 door frame already has my tpi motor installed and all the stuff for the air ride done, ie. shock relocation, opened up the front spring cups for the bags. when i pull the body off the frames ill have the frames next to each other to compare and do what needs to be done to the 4 door frame. they are both canadian frames so maybe ill get lucky. i do have one question though. apparently it is impossible to get a factory wagon tank with a in tank fuel pump. any advice on what people are doing with wagons with fuel injection. I really dont want to do a external pump, so i guess modifying the original tank is the only option short of building a custom tank to fit in there.

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post #4 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-31-2013, 09:36 PM
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I run an external pump, but then I also ran a fuel cell. Not exactly concours correct.

You can buy a custom built stainless steel tank with an EFI high pressure pump built into the tank.

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post #5 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-31-2013, 10:16 PM Thread Starter
 
 
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my buddy can make a tank or we will just modify the original. Any places to source interior pieces. the car has no interior, but the power seat from my 4 door will swap no problem. my 4 door also has power windows. will the 4dr hardtop power windows swap over to the wagon?

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post #6 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-01-2013, 10:04 AM
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So far as I know, yes, the mechanisms are interchangeable.

The interior parts out of your old four door should also transfer over. The motor for the tail gate is the same as that used in the doors.

The head liner is a two piece if I remember correctly. You would use the front half off a four door and cut off the part where it would drop down for the sail panels (it is cut off before you ever see it, it isn't a matter of you getting out your scissors). There is then a painted stamped steel rib that goes across the car to hold up the front half and the back half of the headliner is unique to a long roof.

Side panels for the rear are also unique.

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post #7 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-01-2013, 10:44 AM Thread Starter
 
 
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My 4 dr had no headliner so ill be getting a new one. I'm look at ciadella interiors or maybe classic industries (since i get a discount) but classic doesn't list an interior for a wagon in the big book.

would you be able to take some interior pics of the rear of the car back seat to tailgate so i can get an idea on what is missing. Its hard to find pics online of the full interior of the wagon.

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post #8 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-01-2013, 11:29 AM
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I don't own a full size B-body any more, and I have never owned a car based station wagon (though I have owned three Suburban model light trucks). I have sent my mid-eighty Impalas and Caprice cars to the great recycler in Korea.

I will try and keep an eye pealed for a vintage X framed long roof at the next car show and see if I can get some photos for you.

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post #9 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-01-2013, 11:36 AM Thread Starter
 
 
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thanks dave. is it hard to get a hold of skim on here?

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thanks dave. is it hard to get a hold of skim on here?
Send him a PM and see if he answers your request.

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post #11 of 11 (permalink) Old 08-01-2013, 12:22 PM Thread Starter
 
 
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yeah i did that. i know he frequents many message boards. just thought it might be easier over on layitlow.

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