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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 05-25-2010, 03:51 PM Thread Starter
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I have came across a 69' 4 dr. hardtop ( no B pillar ) 427 with hide-a-ways highly optioned without the 427 and transmission and owner is willing to sell. Any opinions on price? He gave me a price but wanting to hear from the majority.
Here is the VIN 166399D003233.
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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 05-25-2010, 05:58 PM
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the engine alone is worth alot of money, might be a 10k car depending on body
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the engine alone is worth alot of money, might be a 10k car depending on body
This past week a numbers matching 1969 427 Caprice fully restored got at high as 62k at Mecums last auction in Indy and didn't sell. Just a perspective on the going rate.

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Year: 1969
Doors: 2
Engine: 327 V8
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1 - Chevy
66 - Caprice V8
39 - 4 Door Sedan
9 - 1969
D - ?
003233 - Production Number.

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Make: Chevrolet
Model: Impala Custom
Year: 1969
Doors: 2
Engine: 327 V8
Trans: Powerglide
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post #5 of 16 (permalink) Old 05-25-2010, 08:22 PM
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The way I read it John is looking at a car without the original engine or tranny. While it is (was) unique it is still a 4 door hardtop without the original engine. I would not add much value because it was originally a 427, without the original motor. Price should be in line with other 4 door without an engine or tranny in the same shape. The reality is that if it was a SS427 it would be a different story (IMO).

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I re-read the original post and I have to agree with Craig here. No 427.....then you've just got a neat hide-a-way headlight car. Interesting enough though, just on that.

You didn't mention anything about rust or paint but it sounds like it could be anywhere from 4k - 7k. Would be neat to put a date coded 427 back in it..........and a 4 speed!

HOW A NOVICE REBUILDS A 66 IMPALA CONVERTIBLE:
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post #7 of 16 (permalink) Old 05-26-2010, 08:49 AM Thread Starter
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O.K guys here's the rest of the story, I just wanted to hear the initial reaction's. The car has the electric strato-bench; A/C; comfortron and its dash sensor; power disc's; all the brightwork the usuall rust in the lower parts but essentally a complete car. He is asking $2500. I guess it would be good for those who favor the 4dr.s. He said he would not part it out cause it would "lose value" go figure. I hated to tell him it was just another hide a way headlight car even though he would come out better if he did part it out that way. If I had an extra $1500-$1800 I'd buy it only to pass on the part's. The 427 maker bezel's look original to the car because the vaccume canister's for the headlight's were not desturbed the whole car looks unmolested. Hate to see it rust away though. If I can get a pic. I'll post.
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He doesnt want to part it out? He already did when he pulled the motor. To me its just a 4 door with no motor $800
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Agreed all the way but I'd would give him the extra $ due to the disc brake setup and a complete hide-a-way system; cruise control. He's close enough to keep bugging him if I want .
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Keep in mind that complete and functional '69 Hideaway set-ups by themselves (all hardware and Hideaway front core support included) trade hands for $1500-$2000 when you can find them. It's a "Caprice only" option, but it's also a popular and high demand Impala conversion. If you could get him to part with the car for $2K, it might be worth your while.

BTW: The blue '69 427 Caprice that bid up to $62K at Mecum last week was a 1 of 1 L72 425 HP car in # 1 condition. (So the owner claimed).

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Well, if you do get it for a good price and part it out I call dibs on the Hide-a-ways. Ya know, if you don't need em.

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post #12 of 16 (permalink) Old 05-27-2010, 08:42 PM Thread Starter
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Bigblox, I know the price is on the edge. If I can find someone locally to go in with I may return to him, I'm just interested in the disc brake set up for my 68'.....I know the calipers mount on the front side of the spindle on the 69' but it will interchange with the 68's. The hide-a-ways are neat but I don't know if I can live with them plus even though the doors are different-- 1 piece compared to the two piece doors on a 68'-- they would still operate. Would be nice to give the setup a second chance to live again.
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post #13 of 16 (permalink) Old 05-29-2010, 08:20 PM Thread Starter
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What are the rear end possibilities on this model? Posi; Limited; 3.73; 4.11? I know its
a 12 bolt worth at least $400. Just wondering if there is a good rebuildable diff. in there, limited's and posi's go for $300 on up. Right now I have a 3.08 open but needing a 3.73 with the 2.20 first gear Muncie.
My tally is $400 for the 12 bolt; $300 for the disc brake's; $200 both fenders; $100 electric strato bench; $200 complete vigilite system; $1000 min. hideaways, reasonable? Weighing up if I should buy.

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Try and price out the options on eBay. Vigilite could get a LOT more than $200. And most all of the other options you listed could probably get more than you're saying. Odd that a 4 door would have a Strato-bench.

I don't think the front disc brake set up will swap over to your '68. And if I read it right, you're thinking of trying to put the '69 headlight doors on your '68? That will not work for various reasons.

This could give you an idea of the value of the car if it did have the engine and trans:

http://collectorcarmarket.com/menus/.../69chcace.html
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BTW, the 'D' in the VIN is the Doraville GA plant. Most cars from Doraville had the build sheet stuffed into the passenger side seat back. Might want to look.
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Scott, I know the "Bay" would be better, I'm just trying to justify getting a little more $$$ back -- low balling the price's for quick sale---. On the hideaways they don't appeal to me ( personal preferance ) but I know the value, I could use everything BUT the doors if I did want them. I say Strato-bench because of the pull down center armrest. I will probably go back to reinspect to check if the vigilite system is complete or at least 90% same as the hideaways the usual debris when a car sits for awhile kept me from it last time I seen it. I will have to look into the brakes my assembly manual does have the calipers mounted foward of the spindle.
I also will look into the 12 bolt if it is posi or limited plus the rear sway bar. He is asking $2500 will probably let it go for 1800-2K cash-no title but again if I can just make a little $$ and make someones day on the part's I'll be happy enough. I just hate to see something like this go to waste.
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