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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 11-30-2010, 09:05 AM Thread Starter
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Need help decoding my trim tag

I own the car for about year and a half and just now trying to decode the trim tag. It is very basic 1970 Kingswood wagon with the following trim tag:

ST 70 16436
BDY JAN251791
TR 861
PNT 45 45
05D (below the TR tag)

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 11-30-2010, 04:21 PM Thread Starter
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So far I was able to decode the following info:

PNT 45 45 - Mist Green color
05D - built in 4th week of May
70 - year
1 (in ST) - Chevy
64 (in ST) - Impala
36 (in ST) - 4DR station wagon

Still not sure what TR tag means. Any ideas?
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TR is for trim , the color of your interior, in your case it is 861 which shows as Dark Green in 1969, I assume this is the same for 1970 but not positive.

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Thanks. Yes, the interior is dark green.

So I guess that's all. There is no other options on the tag that would show if the car same with power steering and other features?
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For those that don't have their original factory invoice w/RPO codes, you should be able to get a copy of it from the GM Heritage Center in Sterling heights Michigan. If I remember correctly, they're around $50.
Here's the link:
http://www.gm.com/corporate/about/heritage/

It should have all the FACTORY installed info, but DEALER installed items will not be on it.

I hope this helps.
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Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, they cover only 1977 and newer Chevy. Plus looking at my car, I would be paying $50 so they can tell me that my car came with nothing :-) I have no A/C, no power brakes, not even clock on the dashboard.
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Hello,
I too would like to figure out what my trim and accessory codes mean. I believe my 67 Impala to be an original drive train car and would like to verify it.
This is how it reads from left to right;
GENERLA MOTORS COORPORATION
12B A
ST 67-16487 STL008127 BODY
TR 871-A R-R PAINT
E2ESR
146298
BODY BY FISHER

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

R,
Jorge
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Hello,
I too would like to figure out what my trim and accessory codes mean. I believe my 67 Impala to be an original drive train car and would like to verify it.
This is how it reads from left to right;
GENERLA MOTORS COORPORATION
12B A
ST 67-16487 STL008127 BODY
TR 871-A R-R PAINT
E2ESR
146298
BODY BY FISHER

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

R,
Jorge

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Trim Decode:

12B: Built the 2nd week of Dec 1966
67-16487: 1967. Impala 2 Dr Coupe 8 Cylinder
STL008127: Built at the St. Louis Plant, Body sequence # 8,127
TR 871-A: Red Vinyl Bench Seat
R-R Paint: Upper and Lower body color, Bolera Red
E2ESR:
E RPO A01, Tinted Glass
2E: RPO C60 Air Conditioning
2S: RPO U73 Rear Antenna
2R: RPO U80 Rear Speaker
146298 Job Sequence # and Ident #

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The "8127" body sequence-- is this the sequence of all bodies at the St. Louis plant? Or just 2 door hardtop "16487" bodies?

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Thank you Paul!
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The "8127" body sequence-- is this the sequence of all bodies at the St. Louis plant? Or just 2 door hardtop "16487" bodies?
Every Fisher Body plant had their own sequence number for the body they built for Chevrolet. This was done for quality assurance accountability. The sequence number has no bearing on the VIN and was included on the trim tag since the trim tag was attached at the Fisher Body plant not at the Chevrolet Assembly plant.

It is just a sheet metal body when it leaves the Fisher Body plant it has no frame or motor and the Fisher Body plant has no idea what the final car will end up as to trim or motor and tranny; just how it was originally ordered. This is how discrepancies creep into many Trim Tags vs. the VIN which was installed at the end of the assembly line after the car had passed final inspection.

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Big Dave,
If that is the case how do I verify the trim from the VIN?

I'm trying to determine what I have as far as how original the car is...Based on the info Paul provided, it matches what is on the car. It is red on red, AC car. Also if anyone can help determine if my drive train is original, that would be awesome. Below is what I found;

VIN: 164877S138856
Engine suffix: II223HC (passenger side front of engine)
Head casting: 3890462 (Has double humps)
Trans : 12 28D T 12 27D (On oil pan passenger side)
Rear Axle: EO 1227G On tube assembly passenger side.

Thanks for the help in advance.
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Engine suffix: II223HC (passenger side front of engine)
engine formats are in this format:
First letter:
F: Flint Motor Facility
K: McKinnon Industries
T: Tonawanda
V: Flint Engine Plant
So first letter is one of these:
Next 4 numbers are the date: 2 digits for month and two for day, so if it's actually 1223 then that would be Dec 23, 1966. Last two are application, in this car HC is a 327 275HP with Powerglide trans.

Head casting: 3890462 (Has double humps)
This is the correct casting for a 1967 with 327 275 HP with double humps

Trans : 12 28D T 12 27D (On oil pan passenger side)
Powerglide Trans had a stamping on the bottom of the pan in this format: C 11 16 N, decoded to mean: Cleveland, November, 16th, Night Shift.
A powerglide for a 327 should have a letter T for Toledo rather than a C.
Not sure on these stampings.....

Rear Axle: EO 1227G On tube assembly passenger side.
This Axle decodes as follows: EO: 1967 Heavy Duty Chassis 3.55 Ratio non-posi, 1227: December 27th 1966, G: Detroit Gear and Axle

Hope that helps,

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