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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-08-2011, 05:04 PM Thread Starter
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Is this a build sheet? 396 ss Impala 4spd vert?

Not sure that this is a broadcast sheet or build sheet, or what the difference really is.

It was behind the back seat.



Would like some assistance please, decoding

Line 1:
Sequence 539 Mo.06 Day09 Job(blank) Next Box 16867 Body:002937 Next box 813B Paint, C.Top N, 2

Line 2:
First group W
Second group _2___L______
Next boxes apear to be blank

Line 3:
Fourth Group __610__
Fifth Group (appears to have nothing entered in the boxes)
COPO: 22 then there's a 9 and then 518 at the start of the final set of boxes...?

Thank you in advance, guys. I really do appreciate it.
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-08-2011, 06:32 PM
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Steven,
Broadcast sheet or Build sheet are the same.

Line 1:
Sequence 539 Mo.06 Day09 Job(blank) Next Box 16867 Body:002937 Next box 813B Paint, C.Top N, 2

Build date = June 9th
16867 is the Impala SS Convert
813B is Black bucket seat interior
Paint C is Maroon
Top 2 is Black , not sure what the N is for

Line 2:
First group W
Second group _2___L______
Next boxes apear to be blank

W is tintied windshield
2L is 4 speed tranny

All of this should match the information on your Cowl Tag

I don't know the rest but Warren might be able to help you.

Nice find, take care of it.

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Thanks, Craig! Yep, it all matches... Now that I have the build sheet, I am thinking twice- well, actually a third time, about painting it black.
The cowl tag, I don't think, would confirm that this car came with a 4 spd... Now that I have all of the info documented, it's hard to justify painting it another color...
Sigh...
Just not a huge fan of that shade of maroon. Looks a little "Grampish" to me...
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I see nothing wrong with Maroon. But Im a Grandpaw. Nice find. I would frame it.

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Steven,
There is most likely a 2L on your cowl tag indicating the 4 speed trnsmission. A nice maroon paint job will look very nice on that car IMO. And guess what... Some of us are getting old enough to be "Grampas"

I'm a little biased because I hope that all the surviving cars with original drivetrains and other items are restored to thier original conditions. I know that will not happen but I did a little fist pump when I read your latest message. Black would look good also though.

Post a picture of your Cowl tag and we can see if there are any other items you should be aware of.

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post #6 of 15 (permalink) Old 04-23-2011, 10:39 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you, Craig, and all!

Here's the cowl tag.


Here are the firewall chalk markings revealed from soda blasting.
In the center, it reads N2 ( in the pic you can't really see the 2).

And here is a series code stamped into the firewall.

It reads 2W23 4305

Thank you again!
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Steven,
Your Cowl tag looks good.
The 06B lines up with your June 9th build date from your build sheet
The only other marking we have not discussed is the "W" for your tinted windshield.
Florida build location.
The stampings on your firewall are not connected to your VIN or configuration. I forget but I think it is firewall part numbers and inspection/date stampings.
You may have a partial VIN stamped in your cowl area looking down fromt the top though. Look on your passenger side top of cowl.

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Thanks, Craig. Any idea what the 13 stands for on the firewall?

C was on the build sheet, signifying maroon, and yet it isn't on the trim tag...?

How did you know it was built in Florida?
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Sorry I did not mean Florida (but I typed it!). There was not plant in Florida but its still to damn cold up here so it must have been my mind wishing me there.
Your cowl tag does show the exterior color code.

Here is your tag decode:

06B means 2nd week of June build
66-16867 is a 1966 Impala Supersport Convertible
FL2 = Flint Michigan final assembly plant
2937 is the sequential number for that body style for that plant
813-B is your black bucket seat vinyl interior
N-2 is Maderia Maroon exteror with a Black top
W is your tinted windshield
2L means 4 speed transmission


Not sure on the 13 but they wrote many things on the firewall. Mine had BLK on the firewall and SS hand written

Most of these chalk marks were to help the line workers apply the correct colors or options or job number, etc. They used it like a piece of scratch paper!

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229518 would be the top right number on your window sticker.

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Just a quick note to update... Took my seats to the upholsterer's this week. Look what I found tucked between, or wrapped around my driver's seat left rail frame... between the vinyl and frame.

This is build sheet #2!


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Steve, I just found this thread. Several interesting things. It's cool that you found card #1. I'm not really sure what to call them but I have heard to one being referred to as a broadcast card. I sometimes call it a body card.

Notice on the 2nd card that was found, it is NOT from your car! Really neat. It is from a SS coupe, whose body was built on the same day, June 9th. Now your case is a strange one. Usually when a mismatched card is found, it is from a car with the same interior. However, your car has black buckets and the other car had the rare Saddle bucket seat interior, which was not offered the whole model year. Typically, the cards were attached (with) the seats before the covers were put on. Once the cover was put on, the seats all looked the same so they would grab the seats to be for your car and lets say a bucket seat with a build card for the car built just before or after yours. It looked the same so they didn't know. Since the mismatched card was also from a June 9th car, the seat is obviously original to your car. Possible at the plant, the seat was to be covered in saddle vinyl but mistakenly was covered in black!

Who knows but it is fun to ponder! The 610 is the same on both cards and I think it has to due with the line/body jig the car was on when coming down the line.

Does your car have the original 396? Can you post the vin# and engine pad numbers? And do you have a better pic of the card from your car? I'd like to ad both cars to the database.

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Hi Warren, sorry I missed your post. I subscribed to this thread (or thought I did), and never knew anyone else had posted after me.

The mystery deepens....

The engine pad numbers and the vin match. I'll take some pics next time I go out there...

But I found a third build sheet under the other (passenger) bucket. It is different from the other 2!!!!!

First, the third build sheet, followed by what's left of the one to my car. Best I can do.

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Since the car was stripped of all paper before it went into the paint booth, usually the trim numbers and paint numbers were crayoned on the firewall so the painter would know which gun to pick up. (which explains why you found them after blasting off the firewall paint) Since your Trim code is 813, the "13" on the firewall is the code to let the painter who painted the dash know which color gun to grab. Since all Trim numbers began with "8", they didn't need to bother writing that.

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